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    January 18, 2021

    Dragon Ball Z - Frieza Saga Goku by @riiya_am

    Frieza Saga Goku by @riiya_am

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 11:16 AM PST

    Father-Son Reunion by @mattari_illust on Twitter

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 03:56 PM PST

    Merch Monday!

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 10:40 AM PST

    One of Chi-Chi's best burns in an argument with Goku.

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 12:26 PM PST

    My drawing of SSj Goku Namek Style (Limited Color Manga)

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 04:43 PM PST

    Don’t mind me just using the bathroom at my parkour gym

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 08:23 PM PST

    [OC] “Huh? Broly?”

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 07:29 PM PST

    Goku FanArt by myself

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 03:58 PM PST

    A Little Tribute to DBZ[Cosplay and effects made by myself]

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 11:34 AM PST

    How we sometimes feel about Mondays

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 11:18 AM PST

    Always loved the song "Like That Cloud" from the Dragon Ball Super anime, so decided to make a chill piano cover and improv to it

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 12:38 PM PST

    I have made this fusion between Gotenks and Dragapult (pokemon) hope you like it!

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 01:43 PM PST

    Saw this DBZ themed Oculus Quest 2 skin I saw in the Population: One Facebook group

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 06:23 PM PST

    Im a 3D artist from Argentina and i recreated the Attack Ball (Saiyan Capsule) from Dragon Ball ! Hope you like it

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 11:38 AM PST

    I drew my friend as DBZ character. After only drawing existing characters for a while, this was surpassingly fun ��

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 12:18 PM PST

    i made a trunks artwork last year.

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 02:06 PM PST

    Chapter 309 [OC]

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 09:00 AM PST

    Would anyone else would like to see a civilization as a main enemy instead of a single guy

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 07:08 PM PST

    At this point Goku is strong as hell, that's why I would rather to have a intergalaxy civilization as a main enemy, a civilization that has hundreds of thousand years in technology development rather than the 120? The Humans have.

    I would also love to see a fallen angel as a main enemy also

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    Just realized the symbolism behind Gohan’s Final Kamehameha against Cell was with one hand and how it relates to the Gohan in Future Trunk’s Timeline.

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 10:13 PM PST

    Future Gohan lost his arm in the battle against the Androids. Having Gohan use on arm in the final battle was so symbolic and it just went over my head all these years. Rewatching DBS and rewatching the Black Arc and seeing the flashbacks kinda like made it all click?

    Idk why this never dawned on me and I don't think I've really heard anyone else say this. Figured I'd share my realization!

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    Henlo~! I just want to share my vocal cover of CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA (Female Version)! I hope you like it! Sparking~! ✨

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 08:29 AM PST

    Should Dragonball Z Be Remade? If So, Who Should Animate It?

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 08:27 PM PST

    (Note: Constructive feedback is welcome, but I'd appreciate respecting each other's opinions & preferences. It's fine to not want another retread of DBZ, but a lot of fans still like it and would welcome the concept. Also, please feel free to correct me if I cite any animator incorrectly, I did extensive research and tried my best to be accurate with who worked on what)

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    To clarify, when I say "remake", I don't mean a reboot of the original DBZ anime with improved/cleaned up animation. We already had that with Dragonball Kai, which I honestly didn't consider that big of a step up from the old version of the show aside from some better dialogue and less filler. What I'm proposing is a from-the-ground-up re-adaptation of the Dragonball Z storyline with modern animation/production that acts as a more faithful interpretation of Toriyama's original manga.

    Hideko Okimoto

    As for voice-acting, if I had my way, I would: A) Bring back the voice cast from the 90's (Ex- I don't care how much she makes the character sound like a chain-smoker, Stephanie Nadolny will always be my favorite English voice for young Gohan). B) Use previously recorded dialogue from the multiple past iterations of those actors' work. As many times as DBZ's been retold in video games, for instance, you really don't need to re-record it all again. If a studio could hypothetically get the rights to those voice recordings, the animators would simply use that and dub the show through the usual process. Plus, if we're being completely honest, some of those actors are likely too old now to sound the same. Even Sean Schemmel and Christopher Sabat, as much as I hate to admit it, aren't getting any younger.

    Naoki Miyahara

    I started thinking about this recently, in the wake of how successfully Super has rekindled interest in the manga & anime fronts of Dragonball as a franchise. We live in a generation of remakes, reboots, re-adaptations and re-interpretations as it is, both for movies and popular TV series, and there are animators out there who do some quality work on modern anime with a budget. Examples: Digimon Adventure, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Fruits Basket, Hunter x Hunter, Sailor Moon Crystal, etc.

    Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru

    Even in the 80's-90's, when Dragonball, DBZ, and GT had a lot less to work with in resources, technology and funding, the animation team put out some exceptional work for their time. Not every frame was a masterpiece, of course, that's never the case for any work of animation (Even the best of the best have at least a few lower grade frames if you look hard enough). Nonetheless, there was real talent and heart put into those shows. DB wouldn't have become such a pop-culture monolith otherwise.

    Masaki Sato

    The original hand-animated movies especially had some exceptional shots & effects which offered glimpses of what Dragonball could look like with more money behind it. With Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, and the later episodes of Super (after the hilariously embarrassing early episodes), it feels like the animators have made a comeback, the crown jewel obviously being the Super: Broly movie. For the first time, after decades of content, fans got a true cinematic Dragonball experience.

    Naohiro Shintani (Yes, I know the Majin Vegeta frame is fake but it still looks good)

    Of course, I'm not suggesting or implying that a rebooted DBZ series should or could be at the same level as Super: Broly. That's simply not realistic, as even the best animated modern shows rarely have that level of detail or fluidity. No anime that I'm aware of looks that good every episode. Even if that were possible, it certainly wouldn't be practical for an ongoing series as production would take years to put out each season. After all, we've already seen how prolonged hiatuses can affect an IP's public reception & interest over time with Cartoon Network's handling of the Steven Universe franchise.

    Minoru Maeda

    Point being, if there was ever a time to contemplate giving Dragonball Z the reboot treatment, it's now while the trend is still popular and would be more likely to attract interested parties. The first obstacle would most likely be older generations of fans who grew up on the original shows decrying "We don't need a remake, the anime are fine the way they are! A reboot would just ruin it!" As one who grew up on DBZ since I was little when it first premiered on Toonami, I can definitely understand this mentality. It is an inarguable fact that several reboots & remakes have been less than successful or well received.

    Mitsuo Shindo

    Regardless of subjective preferences, the fact remains that reboots as a business practice have garnered a negative stigma for GOOD reason and fans can only be burned so many times before their optimism and excitement give way to cynicism. While every case is different and should ideally be judged on its own individual merits vs flaws, the general root problem with reboots & remakes as a whole is NOT the failure of the audience, "toxic fans", nostalgia blindness, or "the patriarchy".

    Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru

    However much the creators, studios, media and IP owners deny it in their continued efforts to paint the narrative that they're victims of the "extremist fanboys", the truth is that the failure very often comes down to what is simply poor writing and/or execution. If fans smell crap, they're going to point it out. That generally doesn't happen without cause. And the majority of the time, when enough people yell "Smoke", that means there's probably fire somewhere. No matter how much you try to polish a turd after the fact, you're not going to convince the majority that it wasn't a turd.

    Kazuya Hisada

    All that said, in spite of this history of failures, I still fully believe that a remade DBZ could work with the right people behind it. Another common argument might be "Why do we need another rehash of Z? There's more to Dragonball than just THAT, you know!" Not everyone will love my answer to that, but here it goes: The reason why Z has been consistently more popular than Goku's childhood years is simple: Because Z has more action, transformations, and is generally more entertaining. Not everybody has to agree on that, but it's indisputable that Z is what made up the bulk of Dragonball's impact overseas.

    Naotoshi shida

    It's responsible for so many of the biggest, most iconic moments in Western fans' memories. I'm not ignorant to how important Goku's youth is, nor am I unsympathetic to how undervalued it's been in the West. But the reality is, DBZ is still the most influential part of the franchise's identity and that's not going to change anytime soon. Super is popular too, but still comparatively young as a property and not yet anywhere near as huge as Z in terms of content outside the anime + manga. Not to mention, if it wasn't for Super taking place within the Z era, I highly doubt it would be doing so well.

    Masahiro Shimanuki

    New forms, super saiyans, fusion, enormous energy blasts, over-the-top screaming, these are all fundamental ingredients in Dragonball's marketing appeal. I'm sorry, but Goku's childhood adventures are lacking in those areas compared to his adulthood. The most action-heavy sagas of that time are those involving Demon King Piccolo & Piccolo Jr., which don't begin until roughly the 2nd half of the show. It's not the first series' fault, of course, as it was our introduction to the universe and characters.

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    There are also fans who prefer Dragonball over DBZ. But that doesn't change the fact that Z is much bigger and would most likely be a lot easier to sell. There aren't nearly as many studios or fans that would likely invest in a remake taking us all the way back to the beginning of the story. Proposing a remake that combines the events of Dragonball + DBZ into one long series would be similarly futile, as this would risk a number of viewers not bothering to watch until the show reaches the events of Z.

    Keisuke Masunaga

    Without the Western fans, the project would lose out on a significant amount of potential profit. This may be a hard pill to swallow for devout Dragonball fans, but it's an unfortunate reality of the business. People are going to follow the money, and adult Goku's adventures will presumably always eclipse those of his younger self to some extent. That's not necessarily Toriyama's fault or the fans'. It just is what it is. Lastly, perhaps the billion dollar question: What style should a DBZ remake be animated in?

    Tadayoshi Yamamuro

    If we could hypothetically choose any animator or animation style to helm such a project, who's the best choice? Should a remade DBZ stick to the recent style established in the Super: Broly movie by Naohiro Shintani or try to recreate the 90's style of legendary franchise veteran Tadayoshi Yamamuro (BEFORE he lost his touch in Super)? If those two were unavailable, there's Yuya Takahashi who's been praised for arguably saving Super's animation (particularly during the Tournament of Power arc).

    Yuya Takahashi

    I myself have a longtime love for the work of Masaki Sato, Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru, Naotoshi shida, Naoki Miyahara, Masahiro Shimanuki and Kazuya Hisada because I always felt they were some of the best at being faithful to Toriyama's art. I also have nostalgia for the less faithful, but equally memorable style of Keisuke Masunaga. Hideko Okimoto, Minoru Maeda and Mitsuo Shindo are pretty good too, though arguably less consistent in quality. Heck, even less popular animators like Katsumi Aoshima, Tomekichi Takeuchi, and Yukio Ebisawa do some good work with a decent budget.

    Tomekichi Takeuchi, Katsumi Aoshima, and Yukio Ebisawa

    I can't think of an animator responsible for major portions of episodes who was consistently bad off the top of my head. If I had to pick a top three for the leaders in the animation team, my candidates would be Nakatsuru, Hisada, and Sato. That may feel like a betrayal toward Yamamuro, but I just don't like his work as much since he changed to digital animation (not that I'm against digital animation in general, I simply don't like how it changed Yamamuro's style in modern Dragonball compared to DBZ).

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    As for Toyotarou/Toyotaro (however he spells his name), I don't hate his artwork by any means but he'd be my last choice to animate a retelling of DBZ. He's a talented artist, but something about how he draws the characters simply puts me off. Maybe it's how thin and/or wiry he can make the characters look at times? Perhaps it's that he tries too hard to emulate Toriyama's signature style but ultimately just isn't as good at it compared to other artists? And, for context, I've seen original artwork (not just copying Toriyama's art or the anime's) done by myriad artists online. So, I know for a fact that it's not impossible to recreate Toriyama's style. He did choose Toyotarou as his successor, which I respect, and I appreciate that he's a fan. But, at the end of the day, he's not one of my favorites.

    Toyotarou/Toyotaro

    Comment below, would you remake DBZ? Whose animation style would YOU want for it?

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    Dragon Ball Animators Thread

    Animation Quality

    List of the Best Animated Episodes

    Toyotaro Explains the Difficulties in Imitating Akira Toriyama

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