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    December 15, 2020

    Dragon Ball Z - V-Jump Twitter posts new arc teasers (spoilers)

    V-Jump Twitter posts new arc teasers (spoilers)

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 03:54 AM PST

    Frieza always struggles to get into the spirit of things.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 06:51 AM PST

    [OC] I thought i'd sketch out what a super saiyan Gine might look like, in a Masunaga inspired style.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 02:42 PM PST

    Yo I’m 18, I just wanted to share my dbz tattoos here and know what the people think about them

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 07:58 PM PST

    Received my dbz box set

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 06:17 PM PST

    [OC] This time Goku ssgss!

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 07:34 AM PST

    Finally got the new iPhone Go ☁️

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 12:17 PM PST

    DBZ Christmas Special in this apt this year :)

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 12:59 PM PST

    Super Saiyan God Vegeta lapel pins I made earlier this year :)

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 07:00 PM PST

    Since idk... r/dbz is glitchy as all hell and doesn't let me post no LINK submissions, Guess I'll try text with a link...

    Super Saiyan God Vegeta lapel pins

    Made these in the beginning of the year while learning hard enamel etc... then... well... COVID, I figured you guys would appreciate them...

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    Another CG tribute, this time for Dragon Ball GT. I know it's the most polarizing one, but there were moments in GT that I really appreciated. The Cha-La Head Cha-La remix was received well, so here's my take on a Dan Dan Kokoro remix.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 07:53 AM PST

    Chibi Goku ssj3

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 02:36 PM PST

    Goku x Caulifla Animation by studiodraw

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 05:11 PM PST

    A special Cloth Patch I made that same as real Dragon Balls, glow in the Dark ;)

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 02:29 PM PST

    Theory: Goku never bothered developing original techniques because he took Master Roshi's lessons a little too literally

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 05:37 PM PST

    Firstly, we all know Goku's nature. Becuase he's uneducated(not stupid), he's particularly gullible, doesn't really understand certain things and tends to take some things literally.

    Now to the main point. Towards the end of their training with Master Roshi, Goku and Krillin were focused only on having Master Roshi give them fighting tips, tricks and techniques. Master Roshi reveals to them that the real training was them getting stronger by pushing their limits. He specifically mentions that because they already know how to fight, they don't need fancy tricks to win, just strength.

    The message wasn't lost on either party, but I think Goku took it quite literally. Since then, Goku has never bothered to develop an original technique(unless you want to count the Dragon Fist), meanwhile everyone around him has at least one original technique to their name. Now of course he has perfected and innovated variations of techniques such as the Kamehameha, Kaioken and Spirit Bomb, but nothing original. Goku even says it himself, he's only interested in getting stronger.

    In fact, I believe Goku's true genius is in his ability to innovate and achieve transformations.

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    Just noticed “Jackie Chun” is on a date in the background

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 01:43 PM PST

    I think I finally understand Gohan in the Cell Games.

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 02:00 PM PST

    So a lot of us were led to believe that Gohan in the Cell Games pre-SSJ2 transformation either suddenly grew a strong aversion to fighting/killing, or he was too scared of his power to act. But honestly, I think it's something just as simple as those explanations that goes strictly by what the characters, namely Gohan, Goku, and Piccolo, say.

    So here's the mind-blowing revelation that explains Gohan's behavior that we all seemingly missed - Gohan realized what Goku's plan was, but knew he couldn't actually do it. There you go. That's all there is to it.

    If you'll recall, Goku was hinging on Gohan getting mad by simply getting beat up by Cell. However, as we should all know, that's not how Gohan works. His own life being put in immediate peril doesn't set him off because Gohan doesn't care about fighting to prove his strength or to kill - he never did. He only fought to protect others.

    And wouldn't you know it, Gohan reached the same conclusion. Let's think about it for a moment - why did Gohan decide to tell Cell that he doesn't like fighting or killing the same time he says he figured out what Goku's plan was? It surely can't be a coincidence. After all, if all there was to it was Gohan suddenly deciding he's a hard-core pacifist, why didn't he tell either Cell or Goku this earlier? Why wait until after Cell slaps him silly?

    No, I believe Gohan mentioned his lack of desire for action and killing precisely because he knew that's why Goku's plan wouldn't work. He knows he lacks the mindset that is expected of him to be able to pull it off. And when he DOES finally pull it off, it's because #16's speech and death provided the final motivation for Gohan to let his more savage emotions take over in order to control his hidden power. This links back to Gohan's power stemming from his Saiyan/Human hybrid genes - his gentle human nature got in the way of allowing him to access his savage Saiyan spirit.

    Another mind-blowing revelation - when Gohan tells Cell the fight is pointless? He's not talking about there being no reason to fight Cell or whatever. He's talking about Goku's plan. If he can't pull it off, the whole idea of Gohan fighting Cell becomes moot. Even if Gohan was stronger than Goku at that point, it wasn't by a substantial amount, and his chances against Cell were just as bad.

    But if you still don't believe me...then why not ask Piccolo? Remember him chewing out Goku for his plan? How Goku was wrong for thinking Gohan was like him and that he doesn'thave his warrior's stomach? This is the whole crux of the conflict and not something about Gohan being too unwilling or scared to take action or whatever. Piccolo is literally spoonfeeding Goku this.

    Oh, and then during the whole Cell Jr. torturing his friends thing, we see Gohan literally think to himself that he WANTS TO BEAT Cell, but THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO USE HIS RAGE. Bam. Another confirmation that the issue is being unable to control his power at will, and nothing else. He's getting slight rage boosts, but he can't call forth his power and tame it because his mindset isn't there. This is why his rage power always vanished the second it appeared in the past, because it was completely spontaneous with Gohan's emotions. The issue is overcoming that.

    So there you go. Sorry if I came across like a smart-ass at some points, but I genuinely believe the answer to this problem was always staring right at us, but we just didn't take the time to put two and two together. It's frustrating that nobody could actually understand this for the longest time, even the most dedicated of DB fans. Granted, I guess you could say Toriyana still fucked up somewhere in the writing department if nobody could even get what was actually going on, but what's done is done. Hopefully I was able to give you guys something to think about. :)

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    Dbz op 2- I figured this would be appreciated here. Don’t mind the mistakes I’m still learning how to play it ��

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 02:33 PM PST

    Did Yamcha use ANY special attacks/techniques in the Dragon Ball Z anime?

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 03:31 PM PST

    It randomly occurred to me that I only recall a single instance of Yamcha using a special technique/attack in the Dragon Ball Z anime: when he uses the Spirit Ball while training at Kami's Lookout. Outside of that single instance, I do not recall him ever using any attack that wasn't an ordinary punch, ordinary kick, and ordinary ki blast (even in filler).

    That struck me as odd because Tien had a moment of using the Kikoho in almost every arc, but Yamcha had nothing.

    Besides that single use of the Spirit Ball at Kami's Lookout, did Yamcha use ANY special attacks/techniques in the Dragon Ball Z anime? Any special moves he called by name like the Kamehameha, Wolf Fang Fist, etc?

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    Favourite Sagas ��

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 07:52 PM PST

    This has probably (undoubtedly) already been discussed. But what's everyone's favourite saga of DB, DBZ and DBGT, DBS (if you good people wanna share)

    Mine would be the initial Tenkaichi Tournament with the training in DB & The Cell Games

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    Babidi’s Goons could have filled the Buu bubble sooner, right?

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 09:50 PM PST

    Why didn't Babidi just take the energy he needed from all the fighters he had stowed away? Sure they weren't that strong, but compared to the people at the tournament they would have targeted they were miles ahead. On that note, why collect energy on Earth? Clearly he was able to go to different planets to get these fighters. What if he just went to Namek? The Buu Saga is full of holes....

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    Super Android 17 Saga

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 09:15 PM PST

    I never noticed this until recently, but the Super 17 arc is only 6-7 episodes in GT compared to the episode counts of the other major arcs. I always thought it was longer than that when I watched GT as a kid. Was there a reason this arc was about half the length of the others? Was it meant to just be an in between story for Baby and the Shadow Dragons?

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    Probably Unpopular: A Defense of Super Goku's Character

    Posted: 15 Dec 2020 08:22 AM PST

    TL; DR: Goku's character in Super is not a regression or factually inferior to his past self. He is on a journey. I have always thought of Super Goku has him going through a mid-life crisis of sorts. He is finding that excitement that, for four years after Buu, he's been missing. This version of the character is trying their best to see how far this new realm of the gods can take him and I think much more of his actions make more sense when looked through that lens. I could imagine that in an arc or two, after Goku has obtained the highest state there is, UI, he becomes more serious (if they are keeping the EoZ intact).

    Over the years, even before Super was released to the world, I've seen a lot of criticism with regards to Goku as a character. The classic "giving Cell a senzu bean" was a particular point of contention that I've spent an ungodly amount of time discussing.
    However, now that Super has been cemented into Dragon Ball canon, Goku's character has gotten a lot of flack for being dumbed down and "stupid." And, after watching the anime, I can definitely understand that sentiment- he, along with the general feel of the show, felt more childish. However, what I'd like to talk about is the DBS Manga continuity specifically, and why I think that, at least in this version, Goku's character hasn't regressed as a character and isn't a bad character to begin with. In order to keep this short (extended discussions are for the comments), I'm only going to touch on things that I encounter often. Oh and a note: I'm defending Goku's character here, but I'm not claiming that I would do the things Goku did if I were in his situation. He has definitely made mistakes, but just ones that I don't think are out of character.

    1. The ToP is proof that Goku is a danger to the universes- In regards to the Tournament of Power, I don't at all think this is evidence against Goku. He was not aware that his idea would be used as a pretext for mass genocide, so I don't think you could pin this on him. Goku intended for this tournament to be a scaled up version of the Tenkaichi Budokai, which was an extension of his character arc about "self-improvement, often through strife" (kind of the central theme of DB as a whole). The possibility of a tournament where he was able to see and fight people that he couldn't have dreamed of ever seeing is definitely something his character would be excited about, so this isn't out of character. Goku's idea was, at its core, harmless (minus the physical fighting). The only reason this became an issue was because of the unpredictability and wanton disregard for anything that the Zenos possessed- Goku acting within his knowledge could not have predicted their behaviors. Hell, none of the Gods of Destruction predicted a multiverse tournament = win or be erased and they had known him for their entire tenures as Gods of Destruction.
    Another aspect of this point that I want to address is how some take issue with Goku's disregard of authority. Ever since the U6 Tournament, Goku was warned about how dangerous Zeno was and even got firsthand experience with Future Trunks' timeline. But he still goes ahead and talks to him despite the warnings. I don't see this as out of character for him- he regularly disrespects authority and conventional wisdom in order to get what he wants. Take the Buu Saga for example- he literally threatened to kill Shin, a Supreme Kai, even after he had learned who he was, because he wanted to fight Vegeta. He is a textbook definition of a chaotic character. Additionally, all of his encounters with Zeno had been pleasant. He saved his life in the Goku Black arc and was amicable in the U6 tournament- in his eyes, he had no reason to suddenly treat Zeno any differently than he had been up to that point.
    If anything, the ToP is proof that Zeno is the biggest danger to the multiverse, not Goku.
    2. Sparing Moro is Goku Not Learning from his Past Mistakes- This one is recent and really interesting. I've seen the parallels drawn between this arc and previous arcs and, while this isn't a defense of Super's overall writing, this point is especially relevant with this moment. The charge here is that Super Goku hasn't learned from the mistakes of his past because, if he did, he wouldn't have given Moro a senzu bean.
    I am thoroughly confused by this idea. Every single time Goku has shown a villain mercy, it has always helped him in an absolutely major way. I don't think I have to exhaust this point- everyone who has seen Dragon Ball knows how useful Goku's gift of turning villains is. There hasn't been a single intelligent villain that Goku hasn't given mercy to (minus Yakon) before killing them (if he even killed them), so I don't understand why we as fans expect him to change with Moro. Hell, in the manga, Goku had a brief conversation with Zamasu asking whether he would quit his evil actions in the face of being overpowered. He was inclined to let Zamasu live, even after everything he's done. Zamasu, of course, declined, but I think the picture is clear- Goku hasn't had reservations about sparing mass murders, even when he was "smarter" in Z. He urged Krillin not to kill Vegeta in order to have another chance at fighting him; he tried to give Frieza a method of escape, even while in Super Saiyan, a form that, at the time, made you less rational and more bloodthirsty.
    That latter action was the exact equivalent of the Moro scene- Frieza and Moro were both in an absolutely pitiful state that they hadn't been in in their entire life and Goku towered over them and was, for all intensive purposes, invincible. This scene was included to show that despite all of the years that have gone by, the thing that makes Goku different from the other saiyans he had so vehemently rejected beforehand, is still there- his capacity for mercy. If Goku hadn't giving Moro a chance in this exact scene, what would that have said about his character? That, immediately after achieving a state that gods struggled to master, he exercised that power to kill a helpless being that literally couldn't harm him? Is him being more ruthless consistent with his character? In my opinion, definitely not. The entire point of OG DB was to teach Goku a basic moral code to live by (also notice how, when Android 8 died, he destroyed the Red Ribbon Army- years later, when Krillin died, he spared Frieza; the trend of being more merciful is not specific to Super). Killing the weak, no matter how evil they are, no matter how they've hurt him in the past, is not a part of his character (see the Piccolo, Vegeta and Frieza examples). In actuality, him killing Moro without giving him a chance would be contradictory to his character. He doesn't have to change this part of him to grow and honestly, this is the one aspect of him that needs to stay (this is illustrated in Piccolo's comments about his character when they watched Vegeta beating down Moro).
    If you have a problem with this part of Goku's character, that's valid. My point is that it isn't specific to Super Goku and shouldn't be labelled as "bad writing." I wouldn't have given him a senzu bean, but the effect was the same- nothing Moro tried remotely fazed him. With the knowledge that Goku had at the time about Moro, he felt safe doing this- even with reader intuition, nobody expected Moro to become the planet and I don't think it is fair to expect Goku to have considered that possibility.
    The last part of this point is with the Cell Saga version of Goku. Him urging his son to kill Cell seems to fly in the face of my argument. However, that was a different scenario entirely because Goku was a bystander. He, as a father, didn't want to see his son become a sadist right before his eyes and urged him to finish the fight before he lost himself. Additionally, Cell was, and still is, a unique antagonist in the sense that he utilizes the spirit of saiyans to its fullest. Goku knew this and saw Cell was backed in the same corner his son was in just minutes ago- beaten and being toyed with. His plan had already nearly gone to shambles once so, wanting to get this over with is understandable. However, that differs from the Moro situation because Moro didn't show that same characteristic. Goku wasn't toying with him or being cruel, nor was Moro in any position to fight back or go Super Saiyan out of desperation. These were entirely different cases, but I can see the similarities.
    3. Overall Demeanor- Last point. Goku's demeanor is not that of a typical middle-aged (probably) Japanese man. Some might criticize him for not acting his age (which is something characters within the story bring up) and use this as a knock against his character. I argue that "being childish" and "acting one's age" are not at all indictive of a regression of character. I understand people like Goku when he is more serious, however that is entirely subjective. He became calmer and more relaxed after the Buu Saga (hell, after the Cell Saga) and Super Goku is the continuation of that. I could imagine that Super Goku will become more serious and introspective as the series progresses towards the EoZ, but I will not knock the character or writers yet. Dragon Ball is a series, not a collection of separate stories and Goku's character, like all other ones, should be treated as "in-progress."

    Besides this, I am legitimately curious as to why people see Super Goku as being a regression. Much of the complaints is just disagreeing with choices the character made, but that in of itself does not equal regression.
    I'm sorry this was so long- I guess I had a lot to say. If you made it this far, thanks.

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